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Inside the adult industry online

October 6, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

Andrew Conru is talking about the adult industry. He’s the CEO of Friendfinder. Stanford phd 1997. Cofounder of AdKnowledge in 1995. 180 employees. Started as a personals site. Huge traffic.

What really drives the adult business: scary, hardcore … mathematics. They know about short-term conversion ROI.
How can I get visitors cheaply? How can I convert visitors to paid members using any trick in the book? Separate companies: ones that get people to the front door, and other ones that do the conversion.

Tools for getting traffic: Affiliate marketing, popup ads, toolbars, spam and spyware, collaborative traffic networks.

Tools for conversion: subscription models, ID verification, traffic filtering, credit card processing and alternative payment systems, cookies and tracking, live streaming and audio.

What drove adult sites to be innovative? Hundreds of thousands — hyper competition among small operators. Traffic source owners determine what advertising is run, not the advertiser. CPA is the norm, not CPM.

Adult industry takes in $445 million last year online.

Trend: margins are getting tighter. Lots of free content. Hard for sites to differentiate.

I assume no one here goes to adult sites, you might not see these changes going on.

Shifting focus to longterm relationship with their visitors. Reduction of popups, adding registration and personalization. The pitch is becoming softer, less intrusive.

Lessons for the mainstream world? Adult webmasters often collaborate together — “co-opetition.” Mainstream sites are becoming more open to making money with adult content even as the adult industry is having a “self-regulated cleanup.”

Key takeaway: as people are optimizing every little bit of their web sites, you can over-optimize, hurt the user experience, reduce longterm ROI.

Filed Under: Events, Technology

Brewster Kahle at Web 2.0

October 6, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

“I’m probably best known for being part of Web 1.0.”

“I’m going to argue that Universal Access to All Knowledge is possible.”

Altavista said, let’s just index the whole web. Jeff Bezos said, let’s just sell all books. People who focus on doing it all are being pretty successful in the business world.

Texts: how much is there? Library of Congress = 26 terabytes. $60,000 of storage. Price of a house — or, around here, a garage. Costs about $10 a book to scan a book. $260 million. [I’ll need to doublecheck these numbers!]

Question of copyright. What do we do with the out of print but still under copyright stuff? the orphans? — most of the 20th century. 8 million books. We’re not allowed to digitize them. We filed a lawsuit. Kahle v. Ashcroft — to try to allow us to bring out of print but under copyright works onto the night. To do this in the not-for-profit sphere.

It turns out you can print and bind a book for a buck. That’s cheap — cheaper than a library, Harvard says it costs them $2 to lend a book. Bookmobile project. The idea of going book to book — book, scan it, put it on the net, download it, print it, bind it: book to book.

Let’s go to audio. 2-3 million disks that have ever been sold. It’s a very litigated area. Lots of people aren’t served terribly well by the publishing industry. Bands that want to circulate their concert recordings: Grateful Dead. Community-based thing. Folk music, “fringe” areas. Non profit record labels. To people publishing under Creative Commons licenses, we are offering unlimited storage, unlimited bandwidth, forever, for free. If you want to give stuff away, there’s institutional support to help make it happen.

Moving images. Isn’t that too big to do the whole darn thing? Most people think of Hollywood films. 100-200,000 theatrical releases. 1/2 estimated to be Indian. It’s a few more bookshelves, but it’s doable. Copyright issues. Educational films. Mostly being used by others to build new films. Genre of Lego movies.

Television. Recording 20 channels of TV 24 hours a day. Around a petabyte of this stuff. Making it available is still problematic.

Software: copyright office allowing them to archive it.

The Web archive. [He’s showing the original Yahoo home page.’] Kind of looks like Google today. Pets.com.

Preservation and access: the idea is to not have one copy on top of the san andreas faultline. Copies in Alexandria and Amsterdam.

Will we do it? Lots of business opportunities, already spun off four little companies. This is interesting, it requires govt, non-profits and for-profits to work together. Make something we’re really proud of to pass on to the next generation.

Filed Under: Events, Technology

Joe Kraus talks about Jotspot

October 6, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

Live at Web 2.0 today. Joe Kraus, Excite founder, is debuting “Jotspot.”

First trend: “Wikis are growing like weeds.” They centralize information that had been scattered across companies and “allow people to loosely join small pieces of information together.” He’s quoting David Weinberger’s “small pieces loosely joined” (without crediting David.)

Second trend: customization of software. Software’s way too brittle, it doesn’t work the way you work, it works the way the software wants you to work. Excel was revolutionary. Bring similar concepts of customizability ,flexibility, to Lightweight web applications.

On the surface, it looks like a wiki, you can use it that way, but at its heart, it’s a service you can use to loosely join information together.

Integrating email — each page is addressable by email. Adding structure incrememtally to pages. Turning pages into forms. Some spreadsheet-style features. Pulling in Yahoo news search results and google search results. You can add structure and then alter it as you go.

It’s a dozen-person company. He’s going pretty fast in the demo, but it looks pretty cool.

Filed Under: Events, Technology

Draw? Draw? Are we on the same planet?

October 5, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

It is bizarre and strange to me that there is even a partial consensus among the TV talking heads that this debate was a draw. But then I’m terrible at judging what the media spin will be.

It seemed painfully clear to me that Cheney was tired and repetitious, Edwards nimble and engaged. When Cheney lurched at Edwards with cold, sharp jabs, Edwards parried with warmth and then gracefully landed his own blows. (Yes, it did seem like a boxing match at times — that’s good, there should be some real mixing-it-up in a debate.)

Here on the Web the commentary feels closer to reality. Andrew Sullivan says Cheney was “road-kill”: ” There was a tone of exasperation in much of Cheney’s wooden and often technical responses to political and moral questions…. He went down snarling. His personal attacks on Edwards were so brutal and so personal and so direct that I cannot believe that anyone but die-hard partisans would have warmed to them. Edwards’ criticisms, on the other hand, were tough but relatively indirect — he was always and constantly directing the answers to his own policies. Edwards, whom I’d thought would come of as a neophyte, was able to give answers that were clear and methodical.

Here’s Josh Marshall: “I thought that about a third of the way through the debate Edwards started to get under Cheney’s skin. The VP seemed mad. And not in a flattering way. The basic reason, I think, was the same as in President Bush’s case. He didn’t like hearing the fusillade of criticism about Iraq and the war on terror. There were no grimaces and rolling eyes like in the president’s case. But something about him turned sour and snide. And, again, not in a way that helped him land any punches on Edwards or Kerry.”

And over in Salon’s War Room, we’re fact-checking Cheney’s false statements about never having met Kerry before the debate and about Zarqawi and otherwise mopping up some of the evening’s loose ends.

Filed Under: Politics

October 5, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

I suppose the spin-meisters will have their say in the next few minutes, but boy, if the issue in this debate had anything to do with Edwards’ callowness or inexperience, he has fully put that to rest.

http://www.wordyard.com/2004/10/05/672/

Filed Under: Politics

October 5, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

Cheney attacks Edwards for missing votes in the Senate; Edwards lists all the stuff Cheney voted against in the House, including “meals on wheels for seniors.” Point to Edwards, I think — which Cheney all but conceded, by stammering out a “the Senator’s record speaks for itself” non-retort.

http://www.wordyard.com/2004/10/05/671/

Filed Under: Politics

October 5, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

One thing that’s clear from this debate is that each of the vice-presidential candidates is more articulate, faster-tongued and faster-witted than the guys at the top of the tickets.

http://www.wordyard.com/2004/10/05/670/

Filed Under: Politics

Veeps mano a mano

October 5, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

Lost my net connection for a while so no live blogging from Web 2.0 for now — I’ll post more later tonight. In the meantime, I’m in a room with about two dozen refugees from the conference cocktail party (including, that I can see and recognize, Dan Gillmor, Jeff Jarvis, Micah Sifry, Chris Nolan and Mitch Kapor) watching the vice-presidential debate. So far John Edwards seems to be more than holding his own against Dick Cheney’s sneers. “Wait till he says ‘Go fuck yourself,'” somebody said.

Filed Under: Politics

Live from Web 2.0

October 5, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

I’m here at the Web 2.0 Conference at the Nikko in downtown SF and will try to do some onsite blogging.

Right now I’m at a workshop with Stewart Butterfield of Flickr and Rich Skrenta of Topix.net, who’s talking about his post from last spring that suggested Google is building a “Web operating system” platform.

Filed Under: Events

Random links

October 4, 2004 by Scott Rosenberg

This fast-cut edit of Republican convention rhetoric strips the Bush campaign down to its essence.

John Darnielle, the amazing singer-songwriter mastermind of the Mountain Goats, also runs a Web site of writing on popular music called Last Plane to Jakarta. He recently switched to using blog software on his site, so there’s an RSS feed you can subscribe to. I have.

Flickr, the superb photo-sharing web application I wrote about last month, is now selling “pro” accounts for people who expect to upload a lot of photos. (“Preview pricing” is about $40/year, discounted for now from the planned full price of $60.) I’ve signed up for two years. Great design and good service online are worth paying for.

Filed Under: Culture, Music, Politics, Technology

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