Comments on: Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journalism http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/ Technology, politics, culture Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:39:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rosenberg on Y Combinator’s Call for Journalism Startups » Jeremy Hatch http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-13172 Rosenberg on Y Combinator’s Call for Journalism Startups » Jeremy Hatch Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:16:22 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-13172 [...] it was interesting to read his thoughts about Y Combinator’s recent call for journalism startups. (Y Combinator is a venture firm [...] [...] it was interesting to read his thoughts about Y Combinator’s recent call for journalism startups. (Y Combinator is a venture firm [...]

]]> By:   links for 2009-08-19 — contentious.com http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11835   links for 2009-08-19 — contentious.com Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:00:54 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11835 [...] Scott Rosenberg’s Wordyard » Blog Archive » Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journ... "This will sound alarms and seem heretical to all of us who grew up in the old “journalism on one side of a wall, business on the other” world. And yes, media businesses conceived along Graham’s lines will need not only a business plan but a plan for earning and keeping their readers’ trust. [...] [...] Scott Rosenberg’s Wordyard » Blog Archive » Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journ… "This will sound alarms and seem heretical to all of us who grew up in the old “journalism on one side of a wall, business on the other” world. And yes, media businesses conceived along Graham’s lines will need not only a business plan but a plan for earning and keeping their readers’ trust. [...]

]]> By: Steve Buttry http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11801 Steve Buttry Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:40:01 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11801 Scott, I fear that you are right about newspapers seeking to close themselves off from communities, rather than connecting. But I'm not ready to give up trying yet. Scott, I fear that you are right about newspapers seeking to close themselves off from communities, rather than connecting. But I’m not ready to give up trying yet.

]]> By: JV http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11792 JV Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:14:59 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11792 This is a statement of the obvious. All industries have a business side and a creative side - and the twain shall never meet. I always thought that Google was started by VCs to make money first? The first time I ever saw it was when a lawyer from WSGR showed it to me. They are a bit of a VC law firm that likes money and business and money first I am told. The question might be "do people care if they have journalism today or not?" If the answer is "no" then we get Google, Wikipedia, Twitter, Facebook, talk radio, blogs, Omnivores Dilemma, Tipping Point, Huffington, Drudge, Junk Science, etc., etc. If the answer is "yes," well it does not seem that they do. Or, maybe they just don't really need journalism with all the rest? Maybe the end of journalism is just supply and demand. Yes, the government subsidy model is the answer! Pay journalists to not journal - like farmers to not plant. Oh wait, that is what Nancy P wants to do . . . . This is a statement of the obvious. All industries have a business side and a creative side – and the twain shall never meet.

I always thought that Google was started by VCs to make money first? The first time I ever saw it was when a lawyer from WSGR showed it to me. They are a bit of a VC law firm that likes money and business and money first I am told.

The question might be “do people care if they have journalism today or not?” If the answer is “no” then we get Google, Wikipedia, Twitter, Facebook, talk radio, blogs, Omnivores Dilemma, Tipping Point, Huffington, Drudge, Junk Science, etc., etc. If the answer is “yes,” well it does not seem that they do. Or, maybe they just don’t really need journalism with all the rest? Maybe the end of journalism is just supply and demand.

Yes, the government subsidy model is the answer! Pay journalists to not journal – like farmers to not plant. Oh wait, that is what Nancy P wants to do . . . .

]]> By: The Briefing: Start at Y Combinator, finish at EveryBlock - Publishing 2.0 http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11776 The Briefing: Start at Y Combinator, finish at EveryBlock - Publishing 2.0 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:55:28 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11776 [...] Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journalism Wordyard | August 16, 2009 Ryan Sholin says: Scott Rosenberg on the “future of journalism” request for ideas from Y Combinator: “Graham’s challenge is elegantly simple: Instead of starting with the journalism and then puzzling out how to support it, start with the plan for revenue, then figure out what journalism might complement it. Recognize that the realm where innovation is most needed is the business side and how it relates to the journalism.” Tags: Media & Journalism, ycombinator, startups, journalism, Technology, business model, Business, Scott Rosenberg [...] [...] Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journalism Wordyard | August 16, 2009 Ryan Sholin says: Scott Rosenberg on the “future of journalism” request for ideas from Y Combinator: “Graham’s challenge is elegantly simple: Instead of starting with the journalism and then puzzling out how to support it, start with the plan for revenue, then figure out what journalism might complement it. Recognize that the realm where innovation is most needed is the business side and how it relates to the journalism.” Tags: Media & Journalism, ycombinator, startups, journalism, Technology, business model, Business, Scott Rosenberg [...]

]]> By: Scott Rosenberg http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11770 Scott Rosenberg Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:54:22 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11770 Your blueprint is on the mark, Steve. Me, I've pretty much given up on the notion that (most) newspaper companies will seize this opportunity. Most are plotting ways of closing themselves off from their communities rather than serving them. But I hope I'm wrong! Your blueprint is on the mark, Steve. Me, I’ve pretty much given up on the notion that (most) newspaper companies will seize this opportunity. Most are plotting ways of closing themselves off from their communities rather than serving them. But I hope I’m wrong!

]]> By: Steve Buttry http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11769 Steve Buttry Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:41:06 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11769 Scott, you are absolutely right. My Blueprint for the Complete Community Connection envisions a new approach to revenue for community media: http://bit.ly/qzsKx Advertising should be one of many services we offer to businesses. But a newspaper company has the resources, the brand and the opportunity (if we act soon) to become the digital marketplace for its community. Scott, you are absolutely right. My Blueprint for the Complete Community Connection envisions a new approach to revenue for community media: http://bit.ly/qzsKx

Advertising should be one of many services we offer to businesses. But a newspaper company has the resources, the brand and the opportunity (if we act soon) to become the digital marketplace for its community.

]]> By: Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journalism | Tech.xooger.com http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11764 Y Combinator’s “request for startups” in journalism | Tech.xooger.com Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:00:26 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11764 [...] : www.wordyard.com Details : Submited at Monday, August 17th, 2009 at 6:00 am on Uncategorized by samantha Comment [...] [...] : http://www.wordyard.com Details : Submited at Monday, August 17th, 2009 at 6:00 am on Uncategorized by samantha Comment [...]

]]> By: Mitch Wagner http://www.wordyard.com/2009/08/16/y-combinators-request-for-startups-in-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-11759 Mitch Wagner Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:13:54 +0000 http://www.wordyard.com/?p=2234#comment-11759 Scott, I'm all in favor of making the munnies. Especially if it's me that's making it. But there's a respectable Internet history of making great products first, and figuring out how to make money off of them later. Google is the prime example. Scott, I’m all in favor of making the munnies. Especially if it’s me that’s making it. But there’s a respectable Internet history of making great products first, and figuring out how to make money off of them later. Google is the prime example.

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