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		<title>By: YSWT</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2009/03/24/ecco-in-the-cloud-with-amazon/comment-page-1/#comment-13192</link>
		<dc:creator>YSWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ecco 16bit runs standard ecco 32 bit files.  So, any EMULATION of MS DOS that will support windows 3.1,  will run the Ecco 16bit which can  share data directly with ecco32 bit.

so long as x86 is EMULATED-- even just as far as MS DOS Windows 3.1 emulation... Ecco would be able to run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ecco 16bit runs standard ecco 32 bit files.  So, any EMULATION of MS DOS that will support windows 3.1,  will run the Ecco 16bit which can  share data directly with ecco32 bit.</p>
<p>so long as x86 is EMULATED&#8211; even just as far as MS DOS Windows 3.1 emulation&#8230; Ecco would be able to run.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2009/03/24/ecco-in-the-cloud-with-amazon/comment-page-1/#comment-13009</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I had the same idea recently but then it came to my mind that Ecco Pro was compiled for x86 platforms and the cell phones I know of have different processors. Not 100% sure, but doesn&#039;t that mean that Ecco Pro can&#039;t be run on Linux powered cell phones thruogh WINE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I had the same idea recently but then it came to my mind that Ecco Pro was compiled for x86 platforms and the cell phones I know of have different processors. Not 100% sure, but doesn&#8217;t that mean that Ecco Pro can&#8217;t be run on Linux powered cell phones thruogh WINE?</p>
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		<title>By: James Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2009/03/24/ecco-in-the-cloud-with-amazon/comment-page-1/#comment-13000</link>
		<dc:creator>James Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ecco Pro for Cell Phones: Scott, did John ever go further than initial install of Ecco under Linux? Nokia has just released a cell phone running Linux, and both Motorola &amp; HTC offer Android phones (I gather Android is Linux-based). I&#039;m guessing none of them would have the horsepower to run Ecco under Crossover/Wine.
I&#039;d love to run a PDA with Ecco, and this looks like the only way it&#039;ll ever happen. That or a very small notebook. 
Problem is, no PDA or cell phone offers anything close to Ecco&#039;s functionality.
Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ecco Pro for Cell Phones: Scott, did John ever go further than initial install of Ecco under Linux? Nokia has just released a cell phone running Linux, and both Motorola &amp; HTC offer Android phones (I gather Android is Linux-based). I&#8217;m guessing none of them would have the horsepower to run Ecco under Crossover/Wine.<br />
I&#8217;d love to run a PDA with Ecco, and this looks like the only way it&#8217;ll ever happen. That or a very small notebook.<br />
Problem is, no PDA or cell phone offers anything close to Ecco&#8217;s functionality.<br />
Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew F: Right, the fee structure makes sense for many sorts of applications. But keeping a personal PIM program running 24/7 for an individual&#039;s convenience probably isn&#039;t one of them -- that&#039;s all I meant in discussing the cost.

Andrew B: Yeah. Of course I *could* do that. But it would be so much less fun :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew F: Right, the fee structure makes sense for many sorts of applications. But keeping a personal PIM program running 24/7 for an individual&#8217;s convenience probably isn&#8217;t one of them &#8212; that&#8217;s all I meant in discussing the cost.</p>
<p>Andrew B: Yeah. Of course I *could* do that. But it would be so much less fun :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, that&#039;s brilliant. But it makes me think you could do the same thing for free in a VM running on a spare machine at home that was facing the internet ... a virtual windows 98 installation would hardly use any resources in a modern machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, that&#8217;s brilliant. But it makes me think you could do the same thing for free in a VM running on a spare machine at home that was facing the internet &#8230; a virtual windows 98 installation would hardly use any resources in a modern machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;But what should one do with such a thing?

There are many things one can do with EC2 ...

I currently use Amazon EC2 to test WS-BPEL processor prototypes. This required bundling a custom AMI that supports Twisted and Stackless Python.  

&gt;And the current cost of running the Amazon server — which &gt;seems to be about 12.5 cents per hour, or $3 a day, or over &gt;$1000 a year — makes it prohibitive to actually keep this thing &gt;running all the time for everyday needs.

Assuming you are running a paying service, whether the cost is prohibitive depends on your service&#039;s price and cost structure. 

However one of the ideas behind EC2 is to provide clients with readily available computer resources to handle unexpected or seasonal rises in demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;But what should one do with such a thing?</p>
<p>There are many things one can do with EC2 &#8230;</p>
<p>I currently use Amazon EC2 to test WS-BPEL processor prototypes. This required bundling a custom AMI that supports Twisted and Stackless Python.  </p>
<p>&gt;And the current cost of running the Amazon server — which &gt;seems to be about 12.5 cents per hour, or $3 a day, or over &gt;$1000 a year — makes it prohibitive to actually keep this thing &gt;running all the time for everyday needs.</p>
<p>Assuming you are running a paying service, whether the cost is prohibitive depends on your service&#8217;s price and cost structure. </p>
<p>However one of the ideas behind EC2 is to provide clients with readily available computer resources to handle unexpected or seasonal rises in demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was worried about latency too but the desktop was pretty responsive. Also ECCO was engineered for such slower systems that it&#039;s extremely snappy these days, even under these circumstances I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was worried about latency too but the desktop was pretty responsive. Also ECCO was engineered for such slower systems that it&#8217;s extremely snappy these days, even under these circumstances I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!  Not a use case I would have thought of for EC2, but it makes total sense.  My biggest concern would be latency over the internet with remote desktop.

&quot;Yesterday’s machines will virtualize themselves into cloud-borne phantoms&quot; - nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!  Not a use case I would have thought of for EC2, but it makes total sense.  My biggest concern would be latency over the internet with remote desktop.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yesterday’s machines will virtualize themselves into cloud-borne phantoms&#8221; &#8211; nice.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vydra</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vydra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently setup EC2/Win to run QuickBooks. Quick Books actually has an online version, but the Desktop version has much better usability and for a small business that does bookkeeping infrequently, it may even be cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently setup EC2/Win to run QuickBooks. Quick Books actually has an online version, but the Desktop version has much better usability and for a small business that does bookkeeping infrequently, it may even be cheaper.</p>
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