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	<title>Comments on: Berkeley J-School&#8217;s Chronicle panel: The horse-and-buggy set&#8217;s lament</title>
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		<title>By: Blog This! &#187; Writing the Obit for Print Newspapers</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2009/03/17/berkeley-chronicle-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-13545</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog This! &#187; Writing the Obit for Print Newspapers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are a lot of people trying to figure out what comes next for news: Dave Winer, Steve Johnson and Scott Rosenberg all have excellent posts. Read them. (Update 3/23/2009 - I forgot Clay Shirky&#8217;s excellent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are a lot of people trying to figure out what comes next for news: Dave Winer, Steve Johnson and Scott Rosenberg all have excellent posts. Read them. (Update 3/23/2009 &#8211; I forgot Clay Shirky&#8217;s excellent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: [Old Blog] On developing new journalism narratives on line</title>
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		<dc:creator>[Old Blog] On developing new journalism narratives on line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Neiman Lab, folks at the Canadian Journalism Project, CJR, NYT, Ryan Sholin, Mark Deuze, Scott Rosenberg, Dan Kennedy, and many, many others. These are very important [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Neiman Lab, folks at the Canadian Journalism Project, CJR, NYT, Ryan Sholin, Mark Deuze, Scott Rosenberg, Dan Kennedy, and many, many others. These are very important [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Leach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Leach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raising prices key strategy for troubled buggy business

NEW YORK (AP) -- The decline in wagon and buggy sales is accelerating as the industry continues to struggle with consumer defections to the automobile. Buggy sales have been declining since the early 1900s, but the drop has accelerated in recent years. Still, some wagon makers and buggy builders are actually increasing their retail prices. &quot;In the face of declining sales, our strategy is to charge more for our product,&quot; said Josiah Shepard, president of U.S. Wagon Manufacturing Co. &quot;We plan to rehire some of the craftsman we laid off last year. This will allow us to build a better buggy, and we feel consumers will pay extra for this heightened quality.&quot; 

Read more at http://marienbadmylove.livejournal.com/4017.html</description>
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<p>NEW YORK (AP) &#8212; The decline in wagon and buggy sales is accelerating as the industry continues to struggle with consumer defections to the automobile. Buggy sales have been declining since the early 1900s, but the drop has accelerated in recent years. Still, some wagon makers and buggy builders are actually increasing their retail prices. &#8220;In the face of declining sales, our strategy is to charge more for our product,&#8221; said Josiah Shepard, president of U.S. Wagon Manufacturing Co. &#8220;We plan to rehire some of the craftsman we laid off last year. This will allow us to build a better buggy, and we feel consumers will pay extra for this heightened quality.&#8221; </p>
<p>Read more at <a href="http://marienbadmylove.livejournal.com/4017.html" rel="nofollow">http://marienbadmylove.livejournal.com/4017.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Insane Surge in J-School Applications [Wtf] &#171; All Hell Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insane Surge in J-School Applications [Wtf] &#171; All Hell Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rapid change, some journalism schools have become havens for reflexively hostile reactionaries, from the University of California, Berkeley to Columbia &#8220;Fuck New Media&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rapid change, some journalism schools have become havens for reflexively hostile reactionaries, from the University of California, Berkeley to Columbia &#8220;Fuck New Media&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Powazek - Now is a Great Time to Be a Media Maker</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2009/03/17/berkeley-chronicle-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-9751</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Powazek - Now is a Great Time to Be a Media Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Other smart people thinking about this stuff: Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, and Scott Rosenberg. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Other smart people thinking about this stuff: Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, and Scott Rosenberg. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: len sellers</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2009/03/17/berkeley-chronicle-panel/comment-page-1/#comment-9744</link>
		<dc:creator>len sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, loved &quot;Dreaming in Code.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, loved &#8220;Dreaming in Code.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: len sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>len sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See a related conversation in the current issue of Miller-McCune magazine:
http://www.miller-mccune.com/media/nonprofit-funded-university-based-news-1048</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See a related conversation in the current issue of Miller-McCune magazine:<br />
<a href="http://www.miller-mccune.com/media/nonprofit-funded-university-based-news-1048" rel="nofollow">http://www.miller-mccune.com/media/nonprofit-funded-university-based-news-1048</a></p>
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		<title>By: alberonmarketing.com &#187; If you don&#8217;t like the news&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>alberonmarketing.com &#187; If you don&#8217;t like the news&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] end, after Scott Rosenberg tried to explain that journalism could happen without newspapers (he has posted his own account). I said the sources would take over the news. Not enough reporters covering the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tough noogies and self-help for displaced journalists &#171; Ink-Drained Kvetch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tough noogies and self-help for displaced journalists &#171; Ink-Drained Kvetch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the implosion of the newspaper industry, and using the powerful megaphones at its disposal to tell the world about it. But I wonder if Picard realizes how the trenches of a newsroom are organized and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the implosion of the newspaper industry, and using the powerful megaphones at its disposal to tell the world about it. But I wonder if Picard realizes how the trenches of a newsroom are organized and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the elaboration, Scott. I can see where people might get their backs up. I guess I would hope that &quot;insular&quot; isn&#039;t that inflammatory a term, given the level of anger and passion and name-calling this subject provokes (both online and at events like the one I wrote about) -- though I admit that this post&#039;s headline was also confrontational.  

The thing is, this exchange is not taking place in a vacuum -- it comes after what (for me at least) is a nearly *fifteen year long* conversation on this subject. I started writing for the Web in 1994 while I was still working for a daily newspaper and left that paper a year later because, it seemed to me then, the writing was on the wall. 

So if you sense some level of exasperation it does not come out of the blue. &quot;Communicating in this new world&quot; isn&#039;t a new thing for me, and by now, it really shouldn&#039;t be a new thing for anyone who thinks of himself as a professional communicator of one stripe or another. 

If you have &quot;never physically been in a room with anyone who thinks the patient isn&#039;t already dead&quot; that seems pretty remarkable to me. I feel like I&#039;ve been encountering them -- and having a mostly civil but yes, often exasperating -- dialogue with them for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the elaboration, Scott. I can see where people might get their backs up. I guess I would hope that &#8220;insular&#8221; isn&#8217;t that inflammatory a term, given the level of anger and passion and name-calling this subject provokes (both online and at events like the one I wrote about) &#8212; though I admit that this post&#8217;s headline was also confrontational.  </p>
<p>The thing is, this exchange is not taking place in a vacuum &#8212; it comes after what (for me at least) is a nearly *fifteen year long* conversation on this subject. I started writing for the Web in 1994 while I was still working for a daily newspaper and left that paper a year later because, it seemed to me then, the writing was on the wall. </p>
<p>So if you sense some level of exasperation it does not come out of the blue. &#8220;Communicating in this new world&#8221; isn&#8217;t a new thing for me, and by now, it really shouldn&#8217;t be a new thing for anyone who thinks of himself as a professional communicator of one stripe or another. </p>
<p>If you have &#8220;never physically been in a room with anyone who thinks the patient isn&#8217;t already dead&#8221; that seems pretty remarkable to me. I feel like I&#8217;ve been encountering them &#8212; and having a mostly civil but yes, often exasperating &#8212; dialogue with them for years.</p>
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