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	<title>Comments on: AP backs off &#8212; or does it?</title>
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		<title>By: Геннадий</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-4984</link>
		<dc:creator>Геннадий</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Хм... Куча комментов и совсем ни одного по делу :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Хм&#8230; Куча комментов и совсем ни одного по делу :)</p>
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		<title>By: Эрик</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-4731</link>
		<dc:creator>Эрик</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Только вот вчера об этом думал, так что пост как нельзя в тему!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Только вот вчера об этом думал, так что пост как нельзя в тему!</p>
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		<title>By: JollyRoger</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3365</link>
		<dc:creator>JollyRoger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You know what’s ironic, webloggers have been slamming the mainstream media for years now, and telling the new media organizations, like the AP, that they’re no longer needed.

If so, then why would we even care if we could, or could, not exceprt from the AP? After all, we don’t _need_ them, do we? Isn’t that what we’ve been saying all along: we don’t you, AP. &lt;/i&gt;

Shelley, slow down. We'll wait :)

Sometimes an excerpt is useful to flesh out an opinion piece. Normally if I write about the Apologist Press, it is to point out how little they deviate from whatever the official White House line of the day is. I far prefer content from other news sources in any case, so the AP's hysterical attack on the Drudge Retort isn't much of a deal to me.

How much of a deal is it going to wind up being to THEM, though? Now that none of us will excerpt them, their content will be confined to MSM sources that a whole lot of us never use and won't excerpt from. It strains the imagination to believe that excerpting was anything but a positive for the AP in terms of overall readership; I know I am quite likely to click a link if I'm reading a blog post. How is it going to benefit them now that a hell of a lot of the people who used to use them will turn to McClatchy, Reuters, or UPI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You know what’s ironic, webloggers have been slamming the mainstream media for years now, and telling the new media organizations, like the AP, that they’re no longer needed.</p>
<p>If so, then why would we even care if we could, or could, not exceprt from the AP? After all, we don’t _need_ them, do we? Isn’t that what we’ve been saying all along: we don’t you, AP. </i></p>
<p>Shelley, slow down. We&#8217;ll wait :)</p>
<p>Sometimes an excerpt is useful to flesh out an opinion piece. Normally if I write about the Apologist Press, it is to point out how little they deviate from whatever the official White House line of the day is. I far prefer content from other news sources in any case, so the AP&#8217;s hysterical attack on the Drudge Retort isn&#8217;t much of a deal to me.</p>
<p>How much of a deal is it going to wind up being to THEM, though? Now that none of us will excerpt them, their content will be confined to MSM sources that a whole lot of us never use and won&#8217;t excerpt from. It strains the imagination to believe that excerpting was anything but a positive for the AP in terms of overall readership; I know I am quite likely to click a link if I&#8217;m reading a blog post. How is it going to benefit them now that a hell of a lot of the people who used to use them will turn to McClatchy, Reuters, or UPI?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg (journalist) - Should news agencies limit the content bloggers can excerpt from their articles?</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3361</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg (journalist) - Should news agencies limit the content bloggers can excerpt from their articles?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] "The 'spirit of the Internet' has always been about linking and excerpting" Posted on 6/19/2008 11:39 AM by MikeDFrom his blog: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;The &#8217;spirit of the Internet&#8217; has always been about linking and excerpting&#8221; Posted on 6/19/2008 11:39 AM by MikeDFrom his blog: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ownage?: AP tries to decide what is fair use for bloggers &#171; The Learned Fangirl</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3347</link>
		<dc:creator>Ownage?: AP tries to decide what is fair use for bloggers &#171; The Learned Fangirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scott Rosenberg writes: The “spirit of the Internet” has always been about linking and excerpting. Actually, the “spirit of the Internet” is probably even more about wholesale copying. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scott Rosenberg writes: The “spirit of the Internet” has always been about linking and excerpting. Actually, the “spirit of the Internet” is probably even more about wholesale copying. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reconstitution 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Associated Press Declares War On Bloggers!!</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3342</link>
		<dc:creator>Reconstitution 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Associated Press Declares War On Bloggers!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and links to AP articles that were posted under the Fair Use doctrine. This sparked outrage across the blog world right and left, but far from backing down as the NY Times would have us believe, AP has now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and links to AP articles that were posted under the Fair Use doctrine. This sparked outrage across the blog world right and left, but far from backing down as the NY Times would have us believe, AP has now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Agge</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>Agge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE

"The organization now wants to charge anyone who quotes their content $2.50 per word or $12.50 for five words.  It could be that rates go up beyond that point."

&lt;a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/06/17/ap-to-charge-bloggers-250-per-word-for-quotes/" rel="nofollow"&gt;tech.blorge.com&lt;/a&gt;

If that were the AP, it doesn't matter if now you click on the link and check out the main article.  Passing that quote (do numbers count?) along would have cost me over $50.</description>
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<p>&#8220;The organization now wants to charge anyone who quotes their content $2.50 per word or $12.50 for five words.  It could be that rates go up beyond that point.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2008/06/17/ap-to-charge-bloggers-250-per-word-for-quotes/" rel="nofollow">tech.blorge.com</a></p>
<p>If that were the AP, it doesn&#8217;t matter if now you click on the link and check out the main article.  Passing that quote (do numbers count?) along would have cost me over $50.</p>
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		<title>By: Agge</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3338</link>
		<dc:creator>Agge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...but none of the excerpts added anything to the stories. "

Now the AP gets to decide what quotes add to the stories or comments? It's easy to limit word counts or lines, but when you start walking worth you're talking subjective terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;but none of the excerpts added anything to the stories. &#8221;</p>
<p>Now the AP gets to decide what quotes add to the stories or comments? It&#8217;s easy to limit word counts or lines, but when you start walking worth you&#8217;re talking subjective terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Tech Crunch - Here’s Our New Policy On A.P. stories: They’re Banned &#124; Infinite Unknown</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Crunch - Here’s Our New Policy On A.P. stories: They’re Banned &#124; Infinite Unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the NYTimes, and retreating from their earlier position. But from what I read, they&#8217;re just pushing their case [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the NYTimes, and retreating from their earlier position. But from what I read, they&#8217;re just pushing their case [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AP News vs Bloggers Over Fair Use &#183; Real Clear Politcs</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/15/ap-backs-off-or-does-it/#comment-3336</link>
		<dc:creator>AP News vs Bloggers Over Fair Use &#183; Real Clear Politcs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Impolitic, The Glittering Eye, Macsmind, Connecting.the.Dots, Where Was I?, Gateway Pundit, Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard, Bloggasm, Wake up America and The Other [...]</description>
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