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	<title>Comments on: AP sends takedown letters to Drudge Retort: Do excerpts and links infringe?</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A.P. goes nuclear on fair use</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-11262</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A.P. goes nuclear on fair use</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a primer on this issue, you can see these posts (first, a second, a third, and a wrap) from last year, when A.P. got into a scrap with well-known blogger [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christian Leftist</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3364</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Leftist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So big news aggregators (Google) can copy excerpts and link to the AP articles and we can&#039;t? Smells like crap to me.

Thanks for posting this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So big news aggregators (Google) can copy excerpts and link to the AP articles and we can&#8217;t? Smells like crap to me.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this.</p>
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		<title>By: The Internet jungle that scares large corporations : The LEADSExplorer Blog: Lead generation - Website visitors - CRM - B2B</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3325</link>
		<dc:creator>The Internet jungle that scares large corporations : The LEADSExplorer Blog: Lead generation - Website visitors - CRM - B2B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] companies try to impose rules, like Drudge Retort take down (see Scott Rosenberg for more info). The company, Associated Press, sure is from another era and they cannot control the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] companies try to impose rules, like Drudge Retort take down (see Scott Rosenberg for more info). The company, Associated Press, sure is from another era and they cannot control the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AP backs off &#8212; or does it?</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3303</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AP backs off &#8212; or does it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first suggests that the AP has &#8220;retreated&#8221; in an &#8220;about face&#8221; after its hamhanded takedown notices sent to Rogers Cadenhead and his Drudge [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first suggests that the AP has &#8220;retreated&#8221; in an &#8220;about face&#8221; after its hamhanded takedown notices sent to Rogers Cadenhead and his Drudge [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Someone please buy AP a clue &#124; Me Too!</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3301</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone please buy AP a clue &#124; Me Too!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Salon founder Scott Rosenberg points out on his blog, the AP is almost certainly wrong. I would be willing to bet that a court would find in favour of Rogers Cadenhead on virtually every [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3300</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gather that the news wire services have similar styles, so that a subcriber can easily edit a story to fit into available space. Essentially, a simple version of the story is given in the first paragraph, followed by a series of increasingly expanded and more detailed versions.

So even a very short except may be complete enough not to be fair use.

The problem is that lawyers often seemed scared of explaining themselves, lest they ruin a later court case. They don&#039;t want to make it easy for your lawyers to wreck their case. They&#039;re scared of a conversation, but conversation is often the key to a blog.

And then you have the whole standard Internet can of worms about the application of local laws. &quot;Fair use&quot; doesn&#039;t even exist where I type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gather that the news wire services have similar styles, so that a subcriber can easily edit a story to fit into available space. Essentially, a simple version of the story is given in the first paragraph, followed by a series of increasingly expanded and more detailed versions.</p>
<p>So even a very short except may be complete enough not to be fair use.</p>
<p>The problem is that lawyers often seemed scared of explaining themselves, lest they ruin a later court case. They don&#8217;t want to make it easy for your lawyers to wreck their case. They&#8217;re scared of a conversation, but conversation is often the key to a blog.</p>
<p>And then you have the whole standard Internet can of worms about the application of local laws. &#8220;Fair use&#8221; doesn&#8217;t even exist where I type.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone please buy AP a clue &#124; Me Too!</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3295</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone please buy AP a clue &#124; Me Too!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] use.’” As Salon founder Scott Rosenberg points out on his blog, the AP is almost certainly wrong. I would be willing to bet that a court would find in favour of Rogers Cadenhead on virtually every [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] use.’” As Salon founder Scott Rosenberg points out on his blog, the AP is almost certainly wrong. I would be willing to bet that a court would find in favour of Rogers Cadenhead on virtually every [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Morad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second vince. This is a scary move by AP. I am not sure what they are thinking, but maybe AP is trying to set things on the web the way they want it.

Did AP just got new mgmt? I am pretty sure this won&#039;t last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second vince. This is a scary move by AP. I am not sure what they are thinking, but maybe AP is trying to set things on the web the way they want it.</p>
<p>Did AP just got new mgmt? I am pretty sure this won&#8217;t last.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone please buy AP a clue &#187; mathewingram.com/work &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2008/06/12/ap-sends-takedown-letters-to-drudge-retort-do-excerpts-and-links-infringe/comment-page-1/#comment-3287</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone please buy AP a clue &#187; mathewingram.com/work &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Salon founder Scott Rosenberg points out on his blog, the AP is almost certainly wrong. I would be willing to bet that a court would find in favour of Rogers Cadenhead on virtually every [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t actually ready your article, but I did read the link title and blurb on techmeme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t actually ready your article, but I did read the link title and blurb on techmeme.</p>
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