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	<title>Comments on: Toward a Mac migration</title>
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		<title>By: Mary Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-3722</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott &#38; Other Ecco Users - Have you found any additional tips in running Ecco on the Mac?

We have used the notebook function for organizing/storing research for about 15 years &#38; one of our key users is set on moving from a pc to a Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott &amp; Other Ecco Users - Have you found any additional tips in running Ecco on the Mac?</p>
<p>We have used the notebook function for organizing/storing research for about 15 years &amp; one of our key users is set on moving from a pc to a Mac.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Highfield</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Highfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a bit of Mac envy because of programs like iWorks. I really like the creativity you can achieve. Windows word processors are awful in this respect. However, I must admit that MS Word 2007 is a HUGE improvement for creative endeavors. 

I hope Scott can get Ecco Pro to work on his Mac. Sometimes a change can be good for us. As for myself, I have found a nice balance on Windows and doubt if I will ever migrate. But then, I use Ecco Pro for my organization stuff and find it an immensely enjoyable and versatile program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a bit of Mac envy because of programs like iWorks. I really like the creativity you can achieve. Windows word processors are awful in this respect. However, I must admit that MS Word 2007 is a HUGE improvement for creative endeavors. </p>
<p>I hope Scott can get Ecco Pro to work on his Mac. Sometimes a change can be good for us. As for myself, I have found a nice balance on Windows and doubt if I will ever migrate. But then, I use Ecco Pro for my organization stuff and find it an immensely enjoyable and versatile program.</p>
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		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-570</link>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many on this thread already noted, I, too had a difficult time justifying spending more for a Mac. Three weeks ago I started a project at a company that gave me a choice of Mac or Windows laptop. Three weeks later, I doubt that I will ever got back to a Windows laptop. Its not any single feature that makes me say that, its a combination of several factors: starting with the sleek design and a real Unix under the hood, to the speed of startup  and fancy graphic effects in the task switcher (dock), to the built-in camera.

Or do I like my Mac because I felt like a minority when I showed up at BarCamp? It felt like arriving at a bio-diesel/hybrid car meetup in a gas-powered Hummer. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many on this thread already noted, I, too had a difficult time justifying spending more for a Mac. Three weeks ago I started a project at a company that gave me a choice of Mac or Windows laptop. Three weeks later, I doubt that I will ever got back to a Windows laptop. Its not any single feature that makes me say that, its a combination of several factors: starting with the sleek design and a real Unix under the hood, to the speed of startup  and fancy graphic effects in the task switcher (dock), to the built-in camera.</p>
<p>Or do I like my Mac because I felt like a minority when I showed up at BarCamp? It felt like arriving at a bio-diesel/hybrid car meetup in a gas-powered Hummer. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ecco on Mac, Gibson on books</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rosenberg&#8217;s Wordyard &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ecco on Mac, Gibson on books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] slow! The Parallels set up, by contrast, is snappy and, so far, foolproof. Thanks to all of you who advised me on this dilemma. Very exciting. (The &#8220;coherence&#8221; mode of Parallels is remarkable [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] slow! The Parallels set up, by contrast, is snappy and, so far, foolproof. Thanks to all of you who advised me on this dilemma. Very exciting. (The &#8220;coherence&#8221; mode of Parallels is remarkable [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon N</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW I run ecco pro pretty successfully under Crossover Linux. There are a few quirks, and i'm by no means a power user of ecco Pro, but even like this it remains the best organiser/GTD mechanism I've found. Forget about printing from it, though.

I don't know how in sync the Mac &#38; Linux versions of Crossover are, but you should stand a chance. Perhaps register as an advocate of the app with Codeweavers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW I run ecco pro pretty successfully under Crossover Linux. There are a few quirks, and i&#8217;m by no means a power user of ecco Pro, but even like this it remains the best organiser/GTD mechanism I&#8217;ve found. Forget about printing from it, though.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how in sync the Mac &amp; Linux versions of Crossover are, but you should stand a chance. Perhaps register as an advocate of the app with Codeweavers?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A small clarification: Parallels installed fine, but installing WinXP under Parallels was ugly and time-consuming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small clarification: Parallels installed fine, but installing WinXP under Parallels was ugly and time-consuming.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am dependent on Ecco Pro, and I too have been migrating to Mac. I have a Core 2 Duo Macbook and was able to get Ecco installed and running under Crossover, but it seemed a little fragile. Worse yet, I don't believe Crossover supports USB devices, and I am as wedded to my C-Pen as to Ecco. So I installed Parallels (ugly, time-consuming install, but it worked) and WinXP. Then I installed Ecco Pro. Then the C-Pen. Then ported over my big Ecco file for the book I'm writing. So far (a day or so) it seems to be working fine. I think this is your answer. (I only have 1GB RAM but it seems ok; my sense, though, is that 2GB would be a lot better.)

As to Mac equivalents to Ecco, they don't even come close. Omni Outliner bears a surface resemblance and is least toy-like of the lot, but Ecco is immensely more powerful, flexible and suitable for industrial-strength use. I'd love to find an up to date Mac equivalent, but so far no luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am dependent on Ecco Pro, and I too have been migrating to Mac. I have a Core 2 Duo Macbook and was able to get Ecco installed and running under Crossover, but it seemed a little fragile. Worse yet, I don&#8217;t believe Crossover supports USB devices, and I am as wedded to my C-Pen as to Ecco. So I installed Parallels (ugly, time-consuming install, but it worked) and WinXP. Then I installed Ecco Pro. Then the C-Pen. Then ported over my big Ecco file for the book I&#8217;m writing. So far (a day or so) it seems to be working fine. I think this is your answer. (I only have 1GB RAM but it seems ok; my sense, though, is that 2GB would be a lot better.)</p>
<p>As to Mac equivalents to Ecco, they don&#8217;t even come close. Omni Outliner bears a surface resemblance and is least toy-like of the lot, but Ecco is immensely more powerful, flexible and suitable for industrial-strength use. I&#8217;d love to find an up to date Mac equivalent, but so far no luck.</p>
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		<title>By: John Faughnan</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>John Faughnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had some rough edges when I installed Win2K, but I think those were cleaned up in more recent releases of Parallels.

I don't give Win2K much if any net access, so I don't bother with antivirals, etc.

It works fine for installing all the Windows apps I use and it boots with amazing speed.

If you have a 2k license then Parallels isn't too much. I'd go that way.

There are many interesting data management products on the Mac, you may find one that will replace Ecco Pro ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had some rough edges when I installed Win2K, but I think those were cleaned up in more recent releases of Parallels.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give Win2K much if any net access, so I don&#8217;t bother with antivirals, etc.</p>
<p>It works fine for installing all the Windows apps I use and it boots with amazing speed.</p>
<p>If you have a 2k license then Parallels isn&#8217;t too much. I&#8217;d go that way.</p>
<p>There are many interesting data management products on the Mac, you may find one that will replace Ecco Pro &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JC NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.wordyard.com/2007/04/15/mac-migration/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>JC NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Macs are not more expensive.
     Arguing otherwise is ignorance of the facts;

2.  Best of class software (Final Cut HD, etc.) is Mac only.
     Anything you can do on a Windows laptop you can do on a Mac;
     The reverse is not true;

3.  There is no huge premium to pay for the use of OS X on a Mac;

4.  Windows is worse than far from perfect;
     Windows inevitably lowers your productivity;
     and Windows' viruses, adware, and overall security flaws
     should be unacceptable to any intelligent computer user;

5.  Mac OS is UNIX.  What would you rather use?
     Industrial strength mission critical UNIX?
     or a half-baked proprietary funky OS from Redmond?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Macs are not more expensive.<br />
     Arguing otherwise is ignorance of the facts;</p>
<p>2.  Best of class software (Final Cut HD, etc.) is Mac only.<br />
     Anything you can do on a Windows laptop you can do on a Mac;<br />
     The reverse is not true;</p>
<p>3.  There is no huge premium to pay for the use of OS X on a Mac;</p>
<p>4.  Windows is worse than far from perfect;<br />
     Windows inevitably lowers your productivity;<br />
     and Windows&#8217; viruses, adware, and overall security flaws<br />
     should be unacceptable to any intelligent computer user;</p>
<p>5.  Mac OS is UNIX.  What would you rather use?<br />
     Industrial strength mission critical UNIX?<br />
     or a half-baked proprietary funky OS from Redmond?</p>
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